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Old 03-29-2013, 09:27 AM
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If Drew wants to "bastardize" his frame with 1/2" holes, he can certainly go for it. But then he'll become a PO ()
If this is all I'd get flagged for for being a PO, then I'm doing great. All said and done I'm going with grade 5 or stainless carriage head bolts. CCOT does offer a stainless kit for $30

I bought grade 5 1/2" bolts but with the square shoulder I'd have to open up the bumper hole as well... 3/8" it is.
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:53 AM
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Mainly cause the frame was designed, like Jeff said, for 10mm bolts. It annoys me that even Land Cruiser specific vendors don't build their stuff with metric hardware in mind. I'm surprised CCOT doesn't provide hardware to help make the decision easier. MAF provides 3/8" hardware with their bumpers and that helps people make the decision, and most don't worry about it. 3/8" aren't that much smaller than 10mm. Shrug.

If Drew wants to "bastardize" his frame with 1/2" holes, he can certainly go for it. But then he'll become a PO ()

(note this is just my opinion, I know and understand there are other opinions out there. Because Drew's truck is stockish with mostly bolt-on accessories, it seems to make sense to not go down "that" road. If it were Wild Rice we were talking about, then do whatever the heck you want cause there ain't no going' back! (and that's a good thing ))
Ah! That makes sense.
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:47 AM
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Not being a PO is valid reason. :-)

Better from a strength standpoint if both holes are aligned, the same size and the connection is snug, though. But with 10 bolts it's not critical. Same with my ARB, 14 bolts of various size attach that sucker. Worried? Nah. If it was a winch plate on top of the frame horns with 4 bolts, might be more careful.
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:25 PM
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holes are aligned
When I was designing this bumper, I took measurements from my 1971 FJ40, my 1976 FJ40 and my 1978 FJ45. Guess what? I got 3 sets of measurements. This is not a precision application, folks.
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:29 PM
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Not arguing, just curious, but how come? Would the holes not have enough metal around them to remain strong?
Because it is a time-consuming PITA, to be avoided if possible. I had to remove 10 rivets and drill all the holes out to 1/2" on the rear frame of my FJ60 too accommodate my new 4x4 Labs rear bumper. Granted, torching and grinding the rivets off was part of the task that took a fair amount of time, but drilling those holes out was certainly a lot of work, which I would avoid if possible.

I still say 10mm bolts are just fine for the front bumper of a 40.
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Old 03-29-2013, 05:33 PM
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If Drew wants to "bastardize" his frame with 1/2" holes, he can certainly go for it. But then he'll become a PO ()

We've all become PO's with any mod we have made on our stuff...1/2 inch holes in the frame is nothing compared to the things I did when I installed power steering
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