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Old 05-10-2013, 10:42 AM
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Had time with these in LC120 trim in Israel and Jordan. In mostly stock form they handled everything thrown at them. Diesel too. A model to watch.

After seeing the 5th gen 4Runner (LC150) Paul May is building and wheeling with Brian Wilson (Beachboy) on Poison Spider, that's really the one to watch. 40,000 per year sold in the US.
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Old 05-10-2013, 11:11 AM
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we have a 2004 gx470 and really like it but, iam positive my wife will never let me wheel it. seems to have more power than my 2000 tundra and rides and drives really nice. not crazy about the rear swing out gate but that is ok, if i want to sit ill bring out the fold out chairs.
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Old 05-10-2013, 12:50 PM
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what has me turned off on the swing-out door is the ability (or inability) to open it when a trailer, receiver bike carrier, or receiver motorcycle carrier is attached. I'm always flipping the hatch open to get in & out of the fridge or something, not sure I can live without that as it's more than a mild compromise.
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Old 05-10-2013, 02:09 PM
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thats true
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Old 05-10-2013, 02:27 PM
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what has me turned off on the swing-out door is the ability (or inability) to open it when a trailer, receiver bike carrier, or receiver motorcycle carrier is attached. I'm always flipping the hatch open to get in & out of the fridge or something, not sure I can live without that as it's more than a mild compromise.
...and why I prefer the newer GX as well. The flip up glass hatch is significantly larger than the FJ.

Bummer about the newer GX is how the body to bumper lines flow like the 200's. That means major knife work if you armor the bumpers.

**disclaimer here. All of my experience with these is the PRADO and not the LX. Quite possible there are differences I haven't spent the time on to notice.**
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Old 05-10-2013, 04:30 PM
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Barry that's the GX460 with the flip-up glass, right? GX470 that glass is stuck to the door, on all years?
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Old 05-10-2013, 04:37 PM
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They're a rocket ship in stock form. Go try one out.
Mostly 4-runner for sure, but every one has the sweet V8, and they have a much better driving position than a runner. Runners are flat, these are sit-up like the cruisers.
We have an 01 100 and an 03 GX. For general around town, I prefer the GX. Plenty of power. We came from a built V8 4 runner, but the GX is waaaay better. I loved seeing Dans truck in Moab. Gave me lots of ideas...
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Old 05-10-2013, 08:53 PM
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A GX470/460 is definitely our next vehicle purchase for Marianne, but I don't plan to build it. The 460 is uber sweet to drive. Both are hands down better than the 4R.

For us the visibility out of them was the difference. The 5th gen 4R's hood is long and tall. Hard to judge where the front bumper is. GX has a sloping hood. Way better. And I definitely agree the seating position is better. If someone in the aftermarket would build a rear bumper like the Expedition One "smooth motion" FLC unit I bet you'd all change your tune on the swing out door.

With the initial cost of a LC200 I think many of us will be in different platforms in the years to come. I believe the GX is a good one. Me, I'm thinking JDM 80 series when I'm in the market for a FZJ80 replacement.
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Old 05-10-2013, 09:48 PM
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:meh: I don't really see the appeal, especially with the prices so low on a 100 series. Maybe if your family is out of the house and you mostly travel solo, but otherwise it's a 4Runner with less aftermarket support.
I agree. I like them but I need the space the LC provides. Plus, after crawling under a FJC and 4th gen 4R, the LC just has bigger components.

Now with that said, for the wheeling I have been doing as of late and trying to mix this as a daily driver... You could lift it, add tires, sliders and really have a Canyon lands ready rig, that you could drive to work and still get good mileage.

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Old 05-18-2013, 01:26 PM
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Just saw this thread - X2 what Daniel wrote about Paul May's 5th Gen Runner. He had some kind of special model that had dual VVTi on the 4.0. I think he said it was a Baja or something? But he said he liked it even better than his 100. The lines, track and wheelbase reminded me a lot of a quad cab Taco.
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