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Old 06-19-2014, 10:15 PM
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They get louder as they wear and they require pretty frequent rotations, but I'm happy with the Trail Grapplers. I'd like to get a little more mileage out of them, but they are pretty soft so that doesn't help with long term wear.
Did you sipe them?
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They get louder as they wear and they require pretty frequent rotations, but I'm happy with the Trail Grapplers. I'd like to get a little more mileage out of them, but they are pretty soft so that doesn't help with long term wear.
My MTZs have been great for tear resistance, but they look like they have been through hell. They are chunked, scraped, etc. I have never worried about them getting torn...I think they are "3 ply" or 4? They are now REALLY loud and nearly impossible to balance with all the chunks.

I'll be interested to hear what you decide, Tim, because this is definitely the last season on my tires.
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Old 06-20-2014, 04:27 PM
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Thought I'd post in with my new Toyo MT's

I'm 3000 miles into them now after just 30 days. Yah I drive a lot. I've had one replace due to a "Radial Pull" defect. I've rotated them 3 times already. Honestly only one combo had me driving straight. The tire that has been on the truck the longest is already down 3/32" in tread.

So all and all I'm really not happy with these tires. Road noise is fine and traction is great. But unless they get harder as they wear I'm looking at only 20K in life and that could be only 6 months for me. At this point I can't ever see buying them again nor recommending them to anyone.

My last set the Red Label Generals drove straight as an arrow and I got around 35K out of them despite having 4/32" less rubber to begin with.
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Good to know Corbet. I've always liked I those tires, but they cost a lot and I've heard they are really heavy! Rolling weight doesn't help my super-fast 80! Can you comment on the rolling weight "power" loss?
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Old 06-20-2014, 08:01 PM
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They are only 14.4 oz heavier per tire over my old General Grabbers, I did not notice the increase

When I'd change from my Generals to my Duratracs for winter I could never notice the difference.
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Old 06-21-2014, 07:42 AM
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I guess this is our latest tire thread?

I just picked up a set of these a few weeks ago.



Cooper ST Maxx. I'm coming off a set of STT's that were old, loud and unbalanced, so at this point almost anything would be an improvement. The balance is good, the tires are quiet such that I can hear my drivetrain whine again, and they've got the beefy carcass underneath that you get with all the MT Cooper tires (3 ply sidewall), with a balanced tread pattern good for road or trail. These fall somewhere between the STT and the traditional ST.

Once I get a few thousand miles and some trail time, I'll give some more feedback.
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Old 06-21-2014, 03:18 PM
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Mine are 315's. They are "E" rated. I can't speak for other sizes personally. Mine felt extremely thin when I got them. (ordered from Summit Racing). When I had them mounted the tire tech even committed they seemed super thin in the sidewall for what they are. Later I spoke with a local GoodYear dealer down here. They had quit selling them to the oil & gas guys as they had so many sidewall failures locally. Personally all this does not matter to me. Mine only see the HWY for the most part as they have studs for winter use.
I really love how quiet the Duratrac tires were on my truck. I like the look. I like the snow, wet performance. I just can't get past the sidewall stuff. It is quite telling if the oil&gas guys have moved away from them, and Nakman's experience on two tires adds to this.

I was behind Nakman on the trail, and where his tire blew up, there was absolutely nothing sharp. It was almost as if the tire was cut earlier on the trail, and then when it flexed over the next rock section it blew. We looked everywhere around where the inside of his tire would have rolled and there was nothing sharp.

I think I'm going to have to pass on the Duratracs for now. Maybe they will get the feedback and start to beef up their sidewalls?!
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the Birddog wheel is a prime example of what can happen if a company listens to its users. so at any time you see the need or just have a question. i'll do my best to answer it.
More choices in narrow tires, 33x9.50x15 and 30x9.50x15! I use BFG ATs, which I like just fine but they are the only ones making tires that work with my old narrow, small rims. It would be nice to have more options.
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Hugh Phillips at Safari told me that the oil and gas guys out there on the Western Slope reported getting 70k on their Duratracs. I know I have had great experience (so far, knock on rubber) on mine. I have around 20k on mine and haven't even been able to measure any wear with calipers. :shrugs:
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My brother-in-law has gotten about 15k so far on his Duratracs (on a 95 Taco) and is about 1/2 through already. I'm still a believer in the Nitto stuff. I loved my Terra Grapplers.
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