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Old 10-04-2013, 01:07 PM
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Radiator cap on the 40, "KEEP THIS CAP CLOSED USUALLY"
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:36 PM
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Me too. Parts store won't take it with the oil they recycle.

Where do you take yours?
Larimer County landfill, you can drop it off at the hazardous waste building.

http://www.larimer.org/solidwaste/hazardous_waste.htm
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Look it up but I read somewhere antifreeze was a flush down the toilet thing. May be totally off.
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:45 PM
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Man thats a fast baby..check out the motion lines!!
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Old 10-08-2013, 07:28 AM
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OK, this is actually what I do for a living, so here's more than you wanted to know about antifreeze...

The problem with antifreeze is that it contains ethylene glycol (EG). Diethylene Glycol is found in some brake fluids and some manufactures put a little bit of it in their antifreeze. Methanol is found in windshield wiper fluids amongst other things. Some antifreezes do contain methanol but it's not very common. The concentration of EG in antifreeze is usually about 95%. For the sake of this conversation, we will assume antifreeze that is 95% EG and ignore the other components for the sake of simplicity.

The metabolites of EG cause kidney failure and metabolic acidosis (lowering your blood's pH). Either will kill you eventually without treatment, but the metabolic acidosis will kill you a lot more quickly, so that is usually the cause of death. If you survive the metabolic acidosis, you may live to experience the joys of needing dialysis 3 days a week for the rest of your life.

Now, as for an amount that will cause problems up to and including death. We usually worry about a blood concentration of > 25 mg/dl. Some examples:

For 95% EG in a 70 kg (154 lbs) person, that would be about 14 ml, or half an ounce. So, is tasting a drop off your finger going to be an issue? No. Is taking a swig from the gatorade bottle your redneck brother-in-law uses to store his antifreeze going to be an issue? Probably.

For 95% EG in a 10 kg (22 lbs) toddler or small dog, that would be about 2 ml (less than half a teaspoon). So, if a toddler licks it off his finger it's probably not going to be an issue, but if they drink it from a container or even slurp it off a garage floor, it's gonna be a big problem.

The good news: with prompt treatment (getting to an ER within about 6 hours of ingestion is usually sufficient) EG poisoning is rarely fatal. There are actually 2 antidotes available (good old ethanol being one) and with appropriate treatment, people are usually discharged in a few days with no permanent complications.

Important advice: Don't try to figure this stuff out on your own. If you have reason to believe you or anyone you know has ingested more than a taste of antifreeze, call your local poison center at 1-800-222-1222. If you think a pet is at risk, call the national animal poison center at 1-888-426-4435

Sorry for the thread drift...
Alternatively, you can buy the propylene glycol antifreeze. Lower melting point and you can drink it.
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Best warning saying I ever saw was on on a Chain Saw:

"Do not attempt to stop chain with hands or genitals".

Now, you KNOW that someone must have tried both of those for it to make the warning label.
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Old 10-08-2013, 07:33 AM
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Pretty much every product in your house says "Potentially harmful if swallowed. Contact a physician or a poison center immediately if ingested" or some similar variation. It's stupid because it says exactly that whether it is virtually harmless (diaper rash cream) or extremely deadly (antifreeze). If I was in charge, there'd be 3 different warning labels:

1. "This stuff is really pretty harmless. Unless a large amount is ingested, it's not likely to be an issue. If swallowed, and you are worried about it, call the poison center." This would be for stuff like lotion, silica gel, etc.

2. "This stuff could be harmful if swallowed or otherwise used inappropriately. If swallowed, please call the poison center." For stuff like cleaning agents, etc.

3. "This **** will kill you dead. Use extreme caution with use and do not leave it anywhere near children or pets. If swallowed, call your poison center immediately." For stuff like antifreeze, carb cleaner, rust removers with hydrofluoric acid, etc.
Agreed.

Problem is, you would go bankrupt from lawsuits. Turns out, we live in a country of idiots. Relying on someone to read a label let alone use common sense is going to get you sued, and possibly held criminally liable, depending on what you are selling. So, they have to put on the most dire warning they can, because it covers their rear ends.
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