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Old 09-03-2014, 11:30 AM
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Is there a recovery effort in place? Probably best to get it out of there before someone gets upset and tries to close the trail.
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Old 09-04-2014, 05:18 PM
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Jeremy Womack's pics from Facebook. I ran it twice and both times I felt something hang up and kick me toward the downhill side. The second time, the truck was hung up on the front lower control arms and slid the bad way. I wasn't hugging the uphill side at the time. When it didn't feel right, I locked all four and backed up and drove higher around the rock I couldn't see.

"Jeep just past top of Ingram Falls rolled. In the pics you'll see my finger pointed at the rock they went too far to driver side on and the resulting pile of glass

Exactly the spot I was talking about.
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Old 09-04-2014, 05:55 PM
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Is there a recovery effort in place? Probably best to get it out of there before someone gets upset and tries to close the trail.
Not a trail but a county road. San Miguel county wont close it because they'll lose to much summer revenue. Black Bear dose closes today for county maintenance and will probably remain closed through the winter. Maybe the crew can drag it out while they're up there.
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Old 09-04-2014, 06:25 PM
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Not a trail but a county road. San Miguel county wont close it because they'll lose to much summer revenue. Black Bear dose closes today for county maintenance and will probably remain closed through the winter. Maybe the crew can drag it out while they're up there.
It's actually in two counties: San Juan and San Miguel. It is a Forest Service road maintained by San Miguel county (On the SM County side) But it's mapped as Forest Service Rd #648/823

Because of all the FS field offices and the counties involved, it makes for difficult coordination from an event standpoint. All those offices are not very good at communicating with each other.

I fully believe this road can be closed for good, although I agree that there is a lot of revenue generated and that helps keep it open. There are very few Jeep rental companies that will allow their Jeeps on the pass anymore though. Liability insurance makes it unsustainable.
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The counties maintain it because it's a RS 2477 right of way. Either way it's the county that has the final say. If any county commissioner moves to close it, I'll bet my last dollar (pun intended) that that commissioner will be looking for a job after the next election.
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Old 09-04-2014, 10:26 PM
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Either way it's the county that has the final say.
Curious to how/where you got this information? I was told something different. And, you're saying San Miguel county has the final say over the two FS offices and San Juan county?

Just so we're on the same page..... We're talking about personal vehicles being driven from 550 to Telluride via Black Bear Pass, not commercial operations or permit only operations, or the standard traffic that drives up the switchbacks to the one way point?
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There is that once section just after the falls that slides you to the "bad side".

Always does that.

I have a buddy that was up there last weekend with his 62 and said he was there the day after or same day, was not sure of the Jeep roll over.

Said the trail seemed fine or no different from last year when he did it.

I don't see them closing the trail, as mentioned soo much summer revenue from folks coming there from all over. I do see them blasting and widening if there was an issue.

I have another buddy that did that with is Dad when he was very young and the picture he shared with me, showed a much narrower Black Bear pass, so it seems to support the thought that they would just make it wider to suit traffic.

They spend a ton on keeping that open and opening it just before the FJ Summit every year. Not just for the Summit but for the backwards run event that runs from Telluride to Ouray.
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I have another buddy that did that with is Dad when he was very young and the picture he shared with me, showed a much narrower Black Bear pass, so it seems to support the thought that they would just make it wider to suit traffic.
was this him?
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Same guy....lol, no but I was thinking of this picture when mentioning this..
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Old 09-24-2014, 10:55 AM
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Here is the video....

This is the exact spot I was talking about.

Recovery effort complete and vehicle is down, trail cleaned. Happy to see these guys walk away. I can't imagine what goes through your mind as the rollover happens.

Black Bear was still open for the season as of a few days ago.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEtOhROyQuc
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