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Old 08-23-2005, 09:50 AM
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This new forum needs an actual tech post, dang it. So yeah, slowly but surely I'm working on the daul battery setup. My main reasons are that I want to run all my aux. lights, inverter, fridge (someday.. ), and winch off of a second source, so the main battery is mainly used for starting, and keeping the CTF electronics of the truck running. Christo has a write-up on his site, and there are a couple good mud posts as well. Most of you know Drew Pollock from Moab, here is his write-up, and RavenTai's write-up is also good, though different. So to start, if you all could just please read those first, I'll join you again in about 6 hours.
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Old 08-23-2005, 10:23 AM
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So what I need to figure out is what kind of solenoid to use, and do I want to have a bunch of switches? then how to wire it all up. I really think simpler is better, even if it means living with a couple fewer options. Here is a solenoid switch similar to Christo's marine switch, and I seem to run across the name Hellroaring a lot. That's about as far as I've got on this.. other than staring at Uncle Ben's setup a couple months ago.
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Old 08-23-2005, 11:16 AM
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I seem to recall Butch Baker having a really nice setup in his 40, that I was checking out at CM2004. You might see if you can e-mail him and get some pictures and details. He had a big marine switch so that he could run either battery alone or both at the same time.
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Alright so I've made my decision.. after about 8 hours of research over the past 2 weeks, some phone conversations, Mud PM's... I decided I'm going with a Hellroaring BIC 95300A Also getting a remote module that I'll wire to the dash area somehow. This is what Hellroaring describes as their "basic backup" setup, the best they currently offer and easiest to install. Also I'm getting a fusible link for the 2nd battery ground, for some added protection.

All of my accessories will continue to run from the main battery, including the winch. That needs to be a deep cycle battery, I haven't completely decided yet but it probably won't be an Optima yellow top. The other battery will be left exclusively for starting backup, and it doesn't have to be a deep cycle. When I switch the remote deal then it'll get combined with the first battery for winching and emergency starting. So as I understand it, when combined my winch should supposedly be 3x more powerful.

And contrary to popular opinion, the two batteries do not need to be the same, or the same age, since they never "see each other." Another benefit is I can plop in my camper battery to the second tray, then let it reach full charge on the way to the camp site.. so theoretically have 3 batteries between the cruiser & camper, without harming the isolater system or either battery. Questions? discuss... :p

Where's a good place up north to get some monster battery cable wire?
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Alright so I've made my decision.. after about 8 hours of research over the past 2 weeks, some phone conversations, Mud PM's... I decided I'm going with a Hellroaring BIC 95300A Also getting a remote module that I'll wire to the dash area somehow. This is what Hellroaring describes as their "basic backup" setup, the best they currently offer and easiest to install. Also I'm getting a fusible link for the 2nd battery ground, for some added protection.

All of my accessories will continue to run from the main battery, including the winch. That needs to be a deep cycle battery, I haven't completely decided yet but it probably won't be an Optima yellow top. The other battery will be left exclusively for starting backup, and it doesn't have to be a deep cycle. When I switch the remote deal then it'll get combined with the first battery for winching and emergency starting. So as I understand it, when combined my winch should supposedly be 3x more powerful.

And contrary to popular opinion, the two batteries do not need to be the same, or the same age, since they never "see each other." Another benefit is I can plop in my camper battery to the second tray, then let it reach full charge on the way to the camp site.. so theoretically have 3 batteries between the cruiser & camper, without harming the isolater system or either battery. Questions? discuss... :p

Where's a good place up north to get some monster battery cable wire?
General Air and Supply or any welding supply shop.
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Old thread revival....Is the cable from the welding supply shops a quality grade that is fine stranded cable?
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Old 12-29-2008, 08:54 AM
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I got my cable at Napa, they cut it off a roll
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Is yours a fine stranded cable or can you count the number of strands?
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Old 12-29-2008, 11:39 AM
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I can't now that its installed, I do remember it having strands. I would call them and ask what theirs is like.

Been 30 months, and my memory isn't that good
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Just buy welding wire. Much easier to use.
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