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Old 01-23-2007, 11:49 AM
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It's pretty nice, but it's still only 3:1 compared to 4:1 for the Orion. The price is almost as much as an Orion. I got them at Man-A-Fre. Here's a direct link.

The later model "split case" isn't as much of a weak point as earlier transfer cases, so upgrading the gears is a pretty cool mod. Like the Orion, you can continue to use your stock tranny, or to be completely coo, get an H55.

I'm still running the 3.73s in the diffs -- I'll probably go to 4.11s in the future, or 4.88s if I get bigger tires (and who doesn't want bigger tires, I ask you?)

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Why? Is this so Ted Williams can have an 80?
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I really doubt it's too low off road with 29 inch tires. Believe me with 33's you'll want it lower.
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true...I just know with my FJ55 on 35's and stock drivetrain...i bogged down just like he was saying. This low range is MUCH better than US stock range...and the diesel really helps...

I would go with the Orion (and thats what I was going to do before ) I was going with H41/Orion....so now all I need is the orion lol

I'm currently at 40.4ish on the crawl ratio...much better than the stock US 28.8:1

with orion I'd be at 80:1....should be beyond what I'd ever do in that HJ...

I still vote for Orion
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By the way my cruiser acts on the trail I would guess I have 3.73. How would I verify that?

How would the sm420 compare to my stock tranny (on/off road)?

Where should I look to get the parts?

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Old 01-23-2007, 10:08 PM
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By the way my cruiser acts on the trail I would guess I have 3.73. How would I verify that?

How would the sm420 compare to my stock tranny (on/off road)?

Where should I look to get the parts?

Thanks for the help.

What is the production date? If it's before 6/78 it will be 4:11's and after that will be 3:73's.

420 2nd through 4th is very similer to the 3 speed Cruiser tranny gear spacing with the added option of a 7:05 fist gear (grandpa). A 465 has better gear spacibg but you still end up with a three speed and a granny gear first. 420's appeal is Granny gear first and an easy swap.
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Old 01-23-2007, 10:59 PM
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jack up. turn tires, count revolutions of driveshaft vs. revolutions of tire.

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take off rear diff cover and look on the edge of the ring gear...it should be stamped on there. you can count r&p teeth also, but it will be hard to count teeth with it all together.
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By the way my cruiser acts on the trail I would guess I have 3.73. How would I verify that?

How would the sm420 compare to my stock tranny (on/off road)?

Where should I look to get the parts?

Thanks for the help.
Leif,

If you'd like to drive a FJ40 with a SM420 and 4:11 gears (per my lift the rear and spin the tires test ) you're more than welcome to come by sometime and test drive mine. I even have 33x12.5 tires and although my 40 is a '74 it is a 12/74 production date so it is really (I think) a '75 when it comes to the drivetrain (except for the SM420) and probably close to what you would end up with if you went with a SM420.

Maybe the weather will warm up here so you could try it out. I'm a wuss and don't let it out in the snow

PM me if you are interested...I'm down in the Ranch.
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The production date is 01/79. Where can I find the stock specs?
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What is the production date? If it's before 6/98 it will be 4:11's and after that will be 3:73's.
Wow, an FJ40 from 6/98? Where do I get one, sign me up!!!
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3.73 came on fj40's from 79 up and fj60's til 87. 88-90 had 4.11's the fj and fzj80's I have no idea

Look at the code on the firewall tag and tell us axle code... k05 is 3.7's and 08 is 4.11's it's a 99% that you have 3.73's
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