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Old 04-25-2007, 03:36 PM
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If you are running a lift with 35 to 38" tires could you please tell me what the height of the bottom of the frame is? I am trying to figure out if my springs are taller than I ordered.

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Old 04-26-2007, 08:39 AM
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Hey Tom, from what I saw on the markings on the springs, they are exactly what you ordered. And you have exactly the same concerns as anyone who orders Marlin/AllPro springs.

They run about 2" taller than advertised when new. That changes fairly rapidly. I ordered 3" springs for my son's SAS from AllPro, and they sit at about 4.5". I knew this, and prevailed on my son to NOT order taller than 3". He is real happy with the height, but he is a bit nose-high with 4" Alcans in the rear.

That will change after Moab.
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Tom,

FWIW, mine's about 26 1/4" under the doors with 37" Pitbulls. I have no idea what lift my springs or shackles are, but I'd guess 3.5" for the springs and another 1.5" for the shackles.

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Old 04-26-2007, 10:51 AM
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Thanks guys, seems like the springs are settling a little bit so far. The frame height was 29" but last night I thought I read 28 1/4. Would be nice to have it settle a little more before the run but we'll see.

Bill, I called Marlin and asked them about the springs. They told me that some of the 4" springs lift the truck as much as 6"s and settle around 5"s. I asked them why and they blamed the new vendor and steel supply. Seems that they thought the springs would break down more than what they are doing.

In other news, both lockers are working like a charm. Jay and I took it out to the field behind the house. There was some dumped cement etc, did some climbing and engaged the lockers. Except for the gooey mud it did great, nice flex and predictable, so far at least.
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Bill, I called Marlin and asked them about the springs. They told me that some of the 4" springs lift the truck as much as 6"s and settle around 5"s. I asked them why and they blamed the new vendor and steel supply. Seems that they thought the springs would break down more than what they are doing.
That's kinda funny... they get them from the same vendor as AP FAIK, and the AP springs have ALWAYS done that. The thinking being, if someone orders 4" lift and it settles to 3", they are gonna be a whole lot unhappier than if it settles to 4.5" or 5".

But all springs settle.
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25 inches from frame rail to ground under the door on 36 inch tires.
Pretty happy at this height. I drag on things more often than I tip over.

my marlin 4 rears have dropped about 2 inches (with the lowest leaf removed)
My Marlin 3 front buggy springs run flat to inverted all the time. They are too soft.
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Ah ya shamed me into it. I put on the TrailGear Front 4 inch springs last night instead of my low-rider, way too soft 3 inch Marlin buggy springs.

My rig is about 26 at the frame now, but I expect it will sag out to at least 25 again. the new springs ride much much better than the too soft springs did. Now I need to wheel it to settle them!

Also, It looks like the passenger side lean on my truck is caused by a weak right rear spring after all. I might just add the lowest leaf back on that side to help it out a bit. I dunno. It is fully 1 inch lower on that corner.
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Yeah, sometimes pulling a leaf works, sometimes it just stresses the remaining leafs and can lead to a broken main leaf!
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Also, It looks like the passenger side lean on my truck is caused by a weak right rear spring after all. I might just add the lowest leaf back on that side to help it out a bit. I dunno. It is fully 1 inch lower on that corner.
If you can't get it resolved, you can do what I was going to do: Name the rig Eileen.

New main leaves up front fixed mine, though.

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Yeah, sometimes pulling a leaf works, sometimes it just stresses the remaining leafs and can lead to a broken main leaf!

Thought about that, Marlin says it is OK to do with his leaves. I guess we will see after Wednesday. Taking a pre run I hope.
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