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Old 05-30-2007, 02:33 PM
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It's possible that all five wheels will be replaced by my insurance (can't find a match to the one that broke). Toying with the idea of Champion Beadlocks. Whaddya think? I know the maintenance, but with infrequent driving, and the fact that I REALLY don't want to roll a bead (or other things as a result of losing a bead) I am considering options.

A side benefit is, when the ring gets trashed, a new ring is cheaper than a new wheel... And the Champion ring is pretty darn close in appearance to a fake beadlock, so who is to say? The modified American Racing Outlaw style wheel looks pretty good.

What is the story on DOT compliance enforcement issues? Not what you've heard about but what you have experienced first hand? I think I heard about UB getting a ticket in Utah...
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Traditional beadlocks ARE NOT DOT approved. The only reason (usually) the authorities will bug you about them (at least in CO) is because they are looking for a reason. (just like the fender law that is in place!) Utah, beadlocks are a big no-no as they will pull you over and will ticket you and you will have to have the vehicle hauled away! Moab is different as it's clear that the cops will ignore the bolts because of the economy support.

There are several legal beadlocks out these days. I plan on running fake bling bling beadlocks on my 80 with real (legal) Staun system inside. The reason is, as Bill points out, when the rings are trashed you can swap them out cheaper than new wheels. Bolt together two and three piece beadlock wheels also are DOT legal (hummer style). There are a couple other internal style beadlocks out there. I've heard that there is a legal traditional style beadlock out there that has sometype of bold head locks......I do not know anything other than rumor on that one.
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Not true on the illegal part, its been discussed at length before on many different forums, there is nothing that says they are illegal.

I just ordered a set of MRW beadlocks in the 17 inch size, because there weren't any others available. I found out Champion has a much shorter lead time than the rest, and they are priced about the same. I had a set on my last Runner, and they were a pair of Eagle rims that were sent in to be locked. They held up to several years of abuse on plenty of tough trails. I always knew when a bolt was loose, since that was the only time they ever lost air. I never balanced them, they rode great at 75 with various BFG and MTR flavor tires, never had any issues with vibrations. It was also pretty rare that the bolts came loose, almost never.

I DD mine for 4+ years, very low maint, and never once got a hassle about legality from anyone.
I am pretty sure I will be selling my new MRW's at the end of the year, and having a new set of wheels drop shipped to them to be locked. There are some really cool wheels on the market right now and they can lock any alum wheel.

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Not true on the illegal part, its been discussed at length before on many different forums, there is nothing that says they are illegal.

I just ordered a set of MRW beadlocks in the 17 inch size, because there weren't any others available. I found out Champion has a much shorter lead time than the rest, and they are priced about the same. I had a set on my last Runner, and they were a pair of Eagle rims that were sent in to be locked. They held up to several years of abuse on plenty of tough trails. I always knew when a bolt was loose, since that was the only time they ever lost air. I never balanced them, they rode great at 75 with various BFG and MTR flavor tires, never had any issues with vibrations. It was also pretty rare that the bolts came loose, almost never.

I DD mine for 4+ years, very low maint, and never once got a hassle about legality from anyone.
I am pretty sure I will be selling my new MRW's at the end of the year, and having a new set of wheels drop shipped to them to be locked. There are some really cool wheels on the market right now and they can lock any alum wheel.

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I'm sure I can dig up a Utah State Patrol ticket copy that will state otherwise! If a wheel (or tire) does not have a DOT stamp on it or has been altered it is not legal on any public highway and rural roads the speed cannot exceed 30mph!

EDIT: http://safetyinspections.utah.gov/pd...T%20Manual.pdf
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thankfully we live in colorado, I can't say I would let that stop me, been to Moab plenty of times driving and using beadlocks without an issue. Bills truck doesn't look like something from mad max so I bet he's fine. Besides that, most beadlocks have dot stamps on the wheels.

Its been debated countless times, I'd love to see a real statute that addresses it vs what some utah cop wrote a ticket for.

Didn't Mark(scaldeddog) get a ticket or a warning from a Bailey cop about illegal suspension? that was bogus too.
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It's possible that all five wheels will be replaced by my insurance ...
that's just really freakin' cool. so the stated value thing is really working out? I have to say I was a little skeptical that the insurance company would hold up their end of the deal. sorry, a tinsy bit off topic.
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I have OMF. Call and ask for Bones.

I have a full width 4Runner on 37's and have never gotten any static. I drive reasonably and keep as low a profile as I can.

Mine are stamped DOT legal because they started as Eagle Alloys.

They are not DOT legal, nor are they illegal. No one has ever proven reasonably otherwise. Rockstomper as a reward for those who can prove, a ticket just shows a bad day with a cop. There has never been a statute in Colorado cited.

I would look hard at Stauns, both beads and stealth.

I would look hard at the RockMonster that Christo had on Shamu for the UA if I had deeper pockets. Again, both beads and DOT certification.
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I'm sure I can dig up a Utah State Patrol ticket copy that will state otherwise! If a wheel (or tire) does not have a DOT stamp on it or has been altered it is not legal on any public highway and rural roads the speed cannot exceed 30mph!

EDIT: http://safetyinspections.utah.gov/pd...T%20Manual.pdf
Ya know, the problem with that .pdf is, wheel spacers to increase track width are also illegal. I'm already hosed. And a literal reading of the words would indicate that DOT beadlocks are also illegal!

Methinks that would not hold constitutional muster, but I am no lawyer. So Kevin, are you saying your vehicle had to be towed after a citation? That seems extreme, but if it happened, it happened!
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I never said I didn't think it was total BS! My 40 has been on Beadlocks most of it's hard core life. It's the same old pooh....if a law enforcement official wants to pull you over and fill his need to be a bad arse there is an endless amount of normally overlooked issues he/she can pull out of their butt. Case in point a few years ago when they decided to shut down the "Cruising" on Colfax. They nailed anyone with tires that were uncovered by the body of the car. Back east they focus on headlight hight above the ground. After I got that ticket (we went to 21 road from Moab and back) for altered non DOT approved wheels I snagged some 15" chev truck "beauty rings" and snapped them on over the lock rings when ever I drove it on the highway. That only lasted a very short while before I trashed them by not taking them off on a trail. Drive whatever ya want however ya want just know that if Johnny wants to nail ya for something he can and will! And forums are just forums and he-said-she-said will never hold up in court!


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thankfully we live in colorado, I can't say I would let that stop me, been to Moab plenty of times driving and using beadlocks without an issue. Bills truck doesn't look like something from mad max so I bet he's fine. Besides that, most beadlocks have dot stamps on the wheels.

Its been debated countless times, I'd love to see a real statute that addresses it vs what some utah cop wrote a ticket for.

Didn't Mark(scaldeddog) get a ticket or a warning from a Bailey cop about illegal suspension? that was bogus too.
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that's just really freakin' cool. so the stated value thing is really working out? I have to say I was a little skeptical that the insurance company would hold up their end of the deal. sorry, a tinsy bit off topic.
Note the "it's possible that... " qualifier. I don't yet have the final decision, we will see.
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