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Old 06-07-2007, 08:44 PM
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Default Any of you ham operators need an antenna?

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Sure. I could put that in my back yard. 45 ft. tall! NOT!
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Old 06-07-2007, 11:08 PM
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Default Yes you do Chris!

HOA's are a big enema!

In reality, the peak of my roof is at 31 feet. So, it would only stick out 14 more feet above my roof, not tall enough for a 20M beam antenna due to needing the antenna at least 1/4 wavelength away from any structure in order to achieve maximum radiation efficiency.

However, free is free, and the best kinda stuff is free stuff.
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Old 06-07-2007, 11:34 PM
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Nathaniel, if'n ya want it I'll help you go and get it.
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Go big or go home, right?
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It IS close to my house. I'd go get it. It may belong to a guy I chatted with a few weeks ago on 146.520. I don't know where I'd store it. Under my deck, I suppose.
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Old 06-08-2007, 12:22 AM
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Just looked at the residential guidelines in my covenant controlled neighborhood:

4.11 Communication Reception/Transmission Systems and Cable Lines
One (1) small satellite dish, no larger than one meter in diameter (equivalent to 39 inches), may be installed and maintained on any Lot, but only upon compliance with the following conditions:

a. DRC approval is required. Preferred placement is in the rear yard of the home, below the fence line and not visible to any street or open space. The equipment should be installed with emphasis on being as unobtrusive as possible to the adjacent neighbors.

b. All cable lines running across the Lot must be properly buried underground. All cable lines running on the siding of the home must be properly hidden so as not to look in poor condition. Cable lines should run parallel with all siding and with all trim boards and be painted to match surface that it is installed on.

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We talked about that a little in the class Nathaniel did for us. There is a variance for "towers" because of cell phone systems. Any Ham tower like that one should be covered. Now, I'm sure everyone around you would be thrilled when you put it up. But supposedly one could get away with it.
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So legally I could put this in my back yard and no one would be able to do anything about it. Hmmm...
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Old 06-08-2007, 11:22 AM
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We talked about that a little in the class Nathaniel did for us. There is a variance for "towers" because of cell phone systems. Any Ham tower like that one should be covered. Now, I'm sure everyone around you would be thrilled when you put it up. But supposedly one could get away with it.
I should elaborate. HOA's are private contracts that are not covered by the PRB-1. PRB-1 is the FCC declaratory ruling requiring that local zoning laws must reasonably accommodate amateur antennas and support structures with minimal regulation and without unreasonable restrictions. HOA's are under a different class known as CC&Rs Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions. CC&Rs are usually added to the deed by the original non-government restrictions of the property when it was initially sold. CC&Rs remain on the deed even when it is transferred to another party through resale. The FCC has been very clear that PRB-1 does not cover CC&Rs, as they are a private contract, not public policy issues. As of now, PRB-1 wont be of help to address CC&R issues.

The practical bottom line when dealing with CC&R cases is that the amateur is often in a weak negotiating position. Short of getting the HOA to change or waive the restriction, you probably are going to have to rely on alternatives to pursue Amateur Radio from your home in a CC&R situation.

Which means they got you, now you have to follow their rules. They have the acronym of NIMBY(Not In My BackYard) when it comes to HOA's and neighbors with towers.

I may call the guy about the tower. Good thing for me is that we(Bruce and I) have been putting in an radio and tower at work. One more tower won't bother too many poeple out there. I'll take you up on your offer, Brian, if I do go get it.
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