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Old 07-28-2007, 08:15 PM
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Question trouble shooting my new welder...

Howdy everyone-

Well, after the fiasco of getting 220 into my garage... my breaker box is wildly out of date and the breakers haven't been in production in a few decades. I managed to track one down on Ebay and installed it today.

Here is what I have done so far:

Installed a new 50 amp breaker
Used 6/3 wire
Wired the 6-50 socket
Both hot leads go to the breaker
White (common) to the common strip
Bare copper to the copper strip
Checked the voltage at the socket
I have 119v at each of the hot slots.
I pulled my range and got the same readings at the 220 socket there as well.
(is that how to check what I have at the socket?)

I get all excited and plug the new welder in:
Nothing.
Recheck all the wires, leads, gun, and contacts (to activate the drive roller)
Nothing.
Hit the breaker on the machine (was not engaged or tripped)
Nothing!

AHHHHHHH

Now before we start talking about how I should have bought a blue machine, does anyone have any wisdom of something to check next?

FWIW, it is a 220v Lincoln SP 175-T, new just out of the box, never installed before.

I am taking time off this week to work on my trailer build and any help before Lincolns tech support would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Drew
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Old 07-28-2007, 08:31 PM
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try the welder on a known good outlet...return welder for a new one
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Old 07-28-2007, 08:33 PM
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Makes sense.

Anyone in Louisville running a 220v with the 6-50 outlet?
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Silly question but have you checked the polarity leads near the drive gear?
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Sorry I'm of no help...The fact that you got as far as you did without zapping yourself across the room far exceeds what I could do

Good luck with getting it to work!!
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Silly question but have you checked the polarity leads near the drive gear?
UB-

I did recheck the polarity poles, even if I reverse them, one setup is for flux core, and if I reverse it, it is for MIG. I have it set for MIG. UB, do you have the 6-50 plug with parallel prongs?

I will recheck it again. I even pulled off the buisness side just to give a peak and make sure all the connections were on tight.

Anyone on testing the socket, in my first post?

Thanks guys

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Use a meter to make sure each side is 120V to ground, and 220V to each other. You did split the breaker across hot sides, didn't ya? If not, what you have is (2) 120VAC hots with 0V potential to each other, 120VAC potential to ground. Be interesting if you move the breaker one slot if suddenly everything starts working .
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Use a meter to make sure each side is 120V to ground, and 220V to each other. You did split the breaker across hot sides, didn't ya? If not, what you have is (2) 120VAC hots with 0V potential to each other, 120VAC potential to ground. Be interesting if you move the breaker one slot if suddenly everything starts working .
Ding, Ding, Ding!

I think this is it, I didn't split the "hots" I had nil between each of the hot sides and 110v each ground to hot (at the socket). My range has 220 across the two, and my "new" socket had nada...

Changing it now!... we'll see.
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SUCCESS!

Thanks everyone, I had it on only one "hot slot" instead of bridging the two across two hot slots.

Thanks again, big props to Kevin, Bill, and Mike!

...now I just have to learn how to weld
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start flux core... seriously.

Normally I say torch, but since you already have the machine (same lil mig as me) burn at least two small rolls of flux first then try with gas...

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