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Old 11-27-2005, 01:23 PM
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Default Buddy's former rig rolled in Carnage

You guys may remember my friend Tim selling a nicely built 40 a while back.

The new owners took it up Carnage and didn't do too well.

Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ge+11-20-05%22

Found on Colorado 4x4: http://www.colorado4x4.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=49607

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Old 11-27-2005, 03:49 PM
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man, that blows, i remember seeing it at slees at the swap meet. tough break
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Old 11-27-2005, 05:17 PM
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watching him wheel, that's why i avoid carnage. those sounded like beer bottles falling out when he rolled also.
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Old 11-27-2005, 08:59 PM
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You guys may remember my friend Tim selling a nicely built 40 a while back.

The new owners took it up Carnage and didn't do too well.

Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ge+11-20-05%22

Found on Colorado 4x4: http://www.colorado4x4.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=49607

Too bad...
Bleck... I hate that spot. Wasn't bad until people started driving every possible route up that damn canyon and eroded the original trail to the point of tippyness. When in doubt, use a strap!
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That's why Carnage is going to be closed... I was glad that at least they used proper recovery techniques if they were going to post it...
[edit] clarification: the creek part is why Carnage is going to be closed, plus rolling in riparian areas (fluids, etc.)
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:04 AM
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Default That spot

I drove down that spot without incident Saturday.

They turned too soon, but otherwise they were doing just fine. Wheels were turned the right way. They got off the brakes which almost saved 'em. The cage held up. Also the 4 point harness's on the seats kept them in the rig.
If they had squared up to the drop-in (There isn't much room, but even I had room to square up a little. I'm sure a shorty 40 could have squared up even better) and turned 2 feet later, they would have been fine.

Actually, they were avoiding the REALLY DANGEROUS part of the trail by dropping into the creekbed. The really bad part is almost undriveable unless you are full width. Most people don't even stay high that long. I saw 2 rigs Saturday go high and stay out of the streambed. Most people drive the creekbed from 100 yards before where she rolled over. I'm not sure where the "real" trail is there, but the highline looks original, but now dug out and eroded.
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Old 11-28-2005, 01:29 PM
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wow he drives like me.
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Old 11-28-2005, 02:13 PM
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the highline is the original trail. Its always been a wee bit tippy but its only in the last couple of years that people have driven up the creekbed. The first time I went down that trail 5 years ago it was MUCH tighter much more overgrown, and there was most certainly only one route.

It is way more washed out than I've ever seen it before. I stayed high on Saturday, but leinies is right if you aren't full width you aren't making that line. Its too far gone and would take major re-building to make safe.
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Yeah, I've been driving carnage for like 6 years now. It truely saddens me the way it's become. I am hopeful they'll close it down... or at least make it so you MUST drive the original trail.
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the highline is the original trail. Its always been a wee bit tippy but its only in the last couple of years that people have driven up the creekbed. The first time I went down that trail 5 years ago it was MUCH tighter much more overgrown, and there was most certainly only one route.

It is way more washed out than I've ever seen it before. I stayed high on Saturday, but leinies is right if you aren't full width you aren't making that line. Its too far gone and would take major re-building to make safe.
I remember a few years ago Dan Dilly, Red Fox and myself yelled at some kids in two Sami's and told them to get out of the creek bed and back on the trail. Only a couple had made track in the bed at that point, now thats the trail everyone does. Gee, kinda makes you wonder why the USFS is not amused!
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