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Old 07-28-2014, 08:38 PM
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Quick question for those who know alignments (lots of techs or old techs on here ). Please bear with me, as this will seem like a very nit-picky problem from someone who likes things perfect, which it is. My apologies.

I have an irritating camber issue on my truck. I've replaced the lower ball joints, steering rack, and tie rod ends. All factory. I also put Icon upper control arms on, to correct my old alignment issue (funny funny).

The old issue was that the toe and camber could be set perfectly, but the castor was about 0 degrees. This made the truck have a bad wobble in the steering wheel on the highway.

The Icon arms give you about 2 degrees of castor, or so they are supposed to.

Before, I could get my camber zeroed.

Now, I can't. Or so I've been told. One of the rear eccentric bolts is all the way to the outside of the truck. I hate any degree of camber, it makes the truck look like its got something wrong, it wears the tires unevenly, and in this case, it causes the truck to try to drive over the tire when turned full lock. The camber is within factory spec, but not zero.

If the front and rear bolts are messed with, can the camber be re-zeroed and still get the other things in spec? I ask because I wonder if the guys at the shop (usually do a good job) were just trying to get it done quickly, and did the minimum in adjustments to get the truck out the door. By that I mean, if someone who knows what they are doing takes the time to fiddle with it, are there multiple eccentric bolt locations that can achieve the correct alignment, or is it a case of one single set of positions and nothing else can be done?

Or, is it just screwed, and I'll have to live with it (or find something else with a real axle under it )? The truck has not been in an accident, and nothing is bent (at least not on the control arm mounts ). The vehicle tracks straight and there are not wobbles or looseness in anything.

Thanks for indulging.

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Old 07-28-2014, 09:47 PM
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I know if your lower a-arm bushings are wore out it will impact the align-ability of the camber. I assume you knew this though knowing your experience with IFS. They tend to wear out and push the bottom of the tire out resulting in negative camber. If the bushings are good, I'd say they were definitely not patient.
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Old 07-28-2014, 09:53 PM
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I know Jesse at ATLR uses a guy who's used to aligning lifted/modded trucks. I might set it up with him.
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Old 07-29-2014, 09:39 AM
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its got positive camber, i think, \----/, and no, the bushings aren't worn out, as far as i can tell. I'll check out Jesse, thanks!
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Old 07-29-2014, 04:58 PM
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Positive camber? That's odd. Did you end up with the wider Icons?
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Old 07-29-2014, 05:24 PM
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Maybe? I didn't know they came in different sizes? I only saw one set listed on their site, and I ordered them through Toytec to avoid shipping.
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Old 07-29-2014, 11:19 PM
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Hmmm, maybe a hint for an SAS?
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Old 07-30-2014, 09:59 AM
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Its tempting. Problem is, the truck drives really nice on the highway, and I really want to keep this truck more stockish height/comfort,

The issues with these front ends seem to plague others as well as me, so perhaps that will be the ultimate solution. I don't know.
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Old 07-30-2014, 10:14 AM
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I only see one Icon width, so I don't know. I didn't have any alignment issues on my 99. But my brother-in-law's Taco is having issues too apparently. I would start with new lower arm bushings.
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