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Old 11-29-2009, 04:11 PM
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Ding ding ding!: Ige, that's a winning diagnosis. I pulled the knuckle and the lower trunion race was cupped. I talked to Subzali and I will borrow his SST and put the DS together next Sunday.

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Old 12-05-2009, 02:50 PM
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Well I have the SST tool (thanks Subzali and Nakman), I sorted out the overall shim requirement for my 60 knuckles on my 40 axle, but I can't figure out the lower shim thickness because my Birfield Eliminator Kit (BEK) uses a different spindle with a needle bearing inserted on the inward side of the spindle to support the outer axle shaft. As a result I can't insert the SST scribing tool into the spindle (different ID). Therefore, no measurement.

Anyone have a 60 Spindle I can borrow for about an hour?
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Old 12-27-2009, 12:20 PM
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So I have the driver side all buttoned up and start on the PS. I then realized that I have the:knuckle; rubber ring; split ring; felt; halves! (Argghh!!!!). i resign myself to continuing on and fixing it when I have the gooey mess cleaned up. Last night I was using the SST and I came out with zero (0) upper and lower shim thickness. After further investigation the SST was not fully sealing in the knuckle and therefore offsetting the measurement about 5 mm. (Arghh!). Now I have to re-shim the DS!

On the bright side at least I caught this in the PS.

I made the attached XLS to keep things straight in the future so I could remember what I did and why. The cells with blue text are the input variables.
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Old 12-27-2009, 12:34 PM
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if you forget the rubber ring, felt and split ring just cut the felt and rubber and put the split on the top. I've done this on my 80 where I didn't want to pull the knuckle and trunion bearings but did the rest of the knuckle rebuild and replaced the felt and wipers so they were new and fresh without pulling the knuckle off.
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Old 12-27-2009, 01:49 PM
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Thanks Wes. I have come this far so I will unbolt the back and put the rings in the proper order and fix the shims.
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Old 12-27-2009, 02:56 PM
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Sigh I had everything ready to go back together on the PS and as I installed the Marlin seal with the seal driver I saw that the innermost seal spring went "sailing" down the axle tube. I will have to see if I can get an additional seal tomorrow.
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Old 12-27-2009, 04:05 PM
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I saw that the innermost seal spring went "sailing" down the axle tube
Do'H!

Maybe it wanted to go hang out with the Lock Right spring that went sailing into the far recesses of my garage?



I H8t when that happens! Best of luck dude!
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Old 12-27-2009, 04:33 PM
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Do'H!

Maybe it wanted to go hang out with the Lock Right spring that went sailing into the far recesses of my garage?



I H8t when that happens! Best of luck dude!
Thanks for the moral support Jeff. I recovered the errant parts and will get an additional seal from Christo tomorrow and call Marlin and ask WTF?

Looking on the bright side: I have now done at least three knuckle services.
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Old 12-27-2009, 07:09 PM
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On a pulling at the chin contemplative standpoint - what's the worst thing that can happen if the spring ends up somewhere in the diff housing? It gets crunched up between gears. The gears are hardened like a mo fo and the spring ends up as little pieces down on the magnetic drain plug. Not too bad, just a PITA and extra work to re-do the seal. At the end of the day, life is good when you smell 90wt in the morning.
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Jeff H - Do you still have the tool? I would love to be next in line to borrow it, and certainly to compensate the owner for such usage.
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