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Old 01-17-2008, 11:24 AM
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Orion does not use the all the same gears as the stock T-case or you would still have a 2.23 ratio!
My bad, forgot to mention you change a couple.

Martin, I don't *think* a front locker is an absolute necessity for the Rubicon or most trails at Moab (and somebody can correct me if I'm wrong) - If it were me, and this is probably because my 40 is a winter street driver, I would stay away from auto front locker and save up for selectable.
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Old 01-17-2008, 11:37 AM
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My bad, forgot to mention you change a couple.

Martin, I don't *think* a front locker is an absolute necessity for the Rubicon or most trails at Moab (and somebody can correct me if I'm wrong) - If it were me, and this is probably because my 40 is a winter street driver, I would stay away from auto front locker and save up for selectable.
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Old 01-17-2008, 11:40 AM
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Trail only rigs are different. For UB's application, detroits make a lot of sense.

ARB's do fail, Elockers do fail, Detroits do break. I'd say there is no perfect product.

In the end, I think it is personal preference. Many, many people get used to driving an auto or lunchbox on the street. I personally could never do it. Can't stand them.

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I ran a tru-trac for years in a full-time set up. NEVER a problem, except once in an icestorm on the street. But seriously, how often does that happen in Denver? Indy/chicago maybe, but not here.

I will say this though, there is a HUGE difference between a tru-trac and the others. tru-tracs are trully torque sensing, with soft engagement/disengagement. not like a detroit or aussie.

The only negative I could see is that you are a stick, and soft lockers/slips sometimes need a little brake pressure to "fool" into being needed occasionally.
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Trail only rigs are different. For UB's application, detroits make a lot of sense.

ARB's do fail, Elockers do fail, Detroits do break. I'd say there is no perfect product.

In the end, I think it is personal preference. Many, many people get used to driving an auto or lunchbox on the street. I personally could never do it. Can't stand them.

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Never heard of a Detroit failure! R&P's strip/break, axles snap and even housing's fail but Detroits usually are salvageable! I am not saying however it wasn't the Detroits presence that aided the other failures! E-lockers and Air Lockers also rarely fail but the actuators (air or electric) malfunction leaving the locker useless.

I was generalizing about the use of WR too over the course of 25-30 years. Once upon a time I was just like the currant 40 operators in the club...I had a 64 original convertible FJ-40 and I wanted to keep it as stock as I could and only modify it to suit my needs. After a certain point it's usefulness to me was more a trail rig than a DD. I first had a LA Locker (who remembers?) in the rear then one in the front, then fine spline axles in the rear....then the front....then fine spine pinions in the rear....then the front....and so on....and so on.....and so on.....


Just an aside note that John jogged loose......In Long Grain (my 62) I ran a Lock Right in the rear and an Auburn in the front.....It was great on slick streets, worked fantastic on most off road adventures and worked OK on big rocks. That is a good consideration as you can usually get them used fairly reasonable and they are a good median between open and locked!
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I ran Aussie Lockers front and rear in my 55 and wasn't unhappy. That being said, I popped for ARBs front & rear for my orange 40. The ToyBox was real nice, and with the long wheel base, the drive shaft was not an issue. IMO, the drive shaft will be too short in a 40 for a ToyBox. Orion is the way to go for a 40.
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Hey UB, isn't that pretty much true of EVERYTHING? They never fail when they are just sitting there. Ever break an axle driving to the grocery store?
Mine have never failed though. The O-rings have needed replacing. I do have redundant compressors and one did fail, while the other was perfectly serviceable, though!
It's all about redundancy.
Or about having two things to rely on, one or the other...
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