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Old 01-19-2008, 02:09 PM
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Well, good news is, I got my bumper installed

Bad news is, my winch spooled for about 2 seconds then quit. If I use the remote I can hear the seloniods click loudly when I engage it in or out with the remote.

Ahhhhh! How do i start to figure out what went wrong. FWIW, in my haste I wired the power and ground backwards last night when wiring everything back up... NOT GOOD

Any help is much appreciated...
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Well, good news is, I got my bumper installed

Bad news is, my winch spooled for about 2 seconds then quit. If I use the remote I can hear the seloniods click loudly when I engage it in or out with the remote.

Ahhhhh! How do i start to figure out what went wrong. FWIW, in my haste I wired the power and ground backwards last night when wiring everything back up... NOT GOOD

Any help is much appreciated...

The good thing is winches are just a DC circuit which means wiring it backwards simply would make it run backwards! This is of course true UNLESS your winch controls are solid state (i). Most solid state circuits are diode protected so wiring them backwards would just make them do nothing. My guess is you have a ground issue ar somehow you have a relay or relay terminal issue.
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The winch I had on my 40 had a problem that ended up being a poor ground. The ground lug from the battery to the frame also was poor. With a poor ground there is extra current and maybe the protection circuit is shutting it off.

I ended up removing the ground at the frame and using a die grinder to clean to bare metal and reattaching.
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Bad solenoid? IIRC someone mentioned that on the snow run when we were trouble shooting my winch problem. Except I wasn't getting any clicking so I'm pretty sure we ruled the solenoids out

I've got a good solenoid I traded PatrolMan for that I plan to use to troubleshoot my winch. You're more than welcome to borrow it to see if that is the problem

FWIW I shot Warn's tech support an email and they figure my problem is either my remote or the plug on my control box. Might be worth a shot to shoot them an email. It took a few days to get a response from them.
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I believe that the solenoids in the 8274 are different than what I traded. I have an 8274. One important thing to note is that the solenoid box grounds through the motor. The box has to have a good contact to the side of the motor or not enough current can flow. Some guys actually go as far as to run a ground jumper from the box to the motor case. Just something to check.
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Can you help me identify the "box"?
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Not to show UB up or anything because his drawing was pretty darn good...

FWIW my XD9000 when it was on my 40 had the control box grounded to the motor but the box was also somewhat remotely located from the winch...

Also, if you don't have these here is the manual and parts list for a M8274-50:

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Alright smarty pants... how do you ground the plastic box? I am assuming there is a way to ground the control board with all the seloniods inside, I have a ground wire directly from the case to the battery, how would I jump the case to "the box"

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Alright smarty pants... how do you ground the plastic box? I am assuming there is a way to ground the control board with all the seloniods inside, I have a ground wire directly from the case to the battery, how would I jump the case to "the box"

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The solonoids are most likely mounted to a metal plate. That need to be grounded to the winch metal body. I doubt that ground is your problem! Make sure the ground cable from the motor or body has a clean connection at each end! Try looking at the schematic and determine what leads are what on the winch motor. Grab your jumper cables and first see if the winch runs with direct 12V jumped to it....then keep working backwards untill you find where the currant is insufficient! If you hear a "click" that tells you the solonoids are activating....now just find out where the high voltage stop!
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