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Old 01-21-2008, 10:10 AM
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Scott @ rockstomper sold me my line too. It is the way to go for sure.

No kinks, frays, gloves, less weight on the bumper in line and in the aluminum fairlead instead of the rollers which also hurt my approach angle. Less mass when it breaks.

I'll never buy steel cable again.

$300?
Scott's prices are a lot more reasonable. 100' of 5/16 for my M8000 is $165.
Looks like his prices are about the same as everywhere for the 3/8":
3/8" x 125', 20,400lb winch rope, $274
http://www.rockstomper.com/catalog/recovery/ropes.htm
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Old 01-21-2008, 10:24 AM
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I thought I saw some interest in a different thread to maybe buy bulk and then make some lines. Did someone have a lead on bulk line and hardware? This way maybe we could make our own winch line, then winch extensions, and possiable spotter lines. It might be a savings, as well as a learning lesson for all of us. a
The biggest reason I would get the synthetic line is, Safety. It store much less energy in the line if something does go wrong. (It can hurt you some, but I do not think it will kill you) Secondary reasons for me are it is easier to spool in after (no more real dressing the spool), no burrs that can hurt you, floats in water, ease of use when working with it. I like working with it.
Any how anything will work if it is maintained and you treat it with respect. Steel will last a good long time.
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Old 01-21-2008, 10:30 AM
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+1 on safety. When synth rope breaks, it simply falls to the ground. When steel snaps it too falls to the ground, after removing your head, and flying through your windshield. If a strand breaks, it can skewer your hand even through a glove. Plus, it flatspots, kinks, etc. and those places become more likely to break. Synth rope is field repairable with a screwdriver or other poking tool, and the results are actually good as new.

Oh yeah, and it happens to be lighter.

Those are the reasons I run it.
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300 bucks YIKES! I see rope at home depot all the time for like 8 bucks? How different can it be?
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300 bucks YIKES! I see rope at home depot all the time for like 8 bucks? How different can it be?

Check on Slee's website, some of the better prices out there. You can find some better online but you need to make sure you know what you are buying. There are three levels of line out there, they are designated by color. I will try and find the page that explains it and post it here.
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FYI, now available, offset fairleads.
Looks like another great product!
Question: how much to customize it with different text?
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Do you take trade ins on the non-offset style

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FYI, now available, offset fairleads.

http://www.sleeoffroad.com/products/...ry_winches.htm
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I bet they would need at least 20 orders to make it pay off. I would be up for one if it is the same price as the original.

Cristo what do you think??? Maybe a little "Slee Off Road" on the top???
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Everything I have read makes me think that I will soon be switching to synthetic winch line.

The primary benefits that I see are:
1. Lighter weight
2. Far safer in case of breakage.

The drawbacks seem to be:
1. UV degradation
2. Issues with getting it dirty, dragging it over rocks.

Matt,

FWIW I got my rope from Rock Stomper and went with what Warn recommended which was to replace the cable with the same size and length of rope. I bought an extra 10' section of the rope guard (to both protect the rope and also for additional UV protection when the rope is just sitting their spooled up on the winch 364 days out of the year . I also bought a 50' (maybe 75') extension line. The one thing I did not get was a new hook (reused what I had).

It is expensive but safety was my #1 concern. I know snapping a steel cable is probably pretty rare (even bought one of those ARB winch line deals to put over the steel cable) but I had to replace the old cable anyway so it made my choice easier. I still have steel cable on my 40 right now with no plans to replace it. If I start wheeling the 40 more than I will probably replace it. As of right now the winch on the 40 is just for looks
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My descision to use the Viking Combo 5/16" synth line was based primarily on the weight savings.

The Warn M8000 now weighs 50 Lbs vs 80 Lbs, and that pretty much offset the difference in weight between the stock bumper and a TJM T-17. I moved the control box into the engine compartment so it's also off the front bumper. The total front end weight increased by 160 Lbs - that includes the second battery, isolator, 2 Gage cables, bumper shell, and winch. Of that total the second battery and Isolator are behind the front tires.

So far I've only used the winch 5 times since X-Mas - once for an intentional stuck to test it, and 4 times for dead and down pines. It also nice to have the accesories all running of a 950 CCA deep cycle, and to have dual bat's available for trail welding if required.

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