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Old 03-12-2008, 08:18 AM
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So I was over helping KDěDHO get his radio put in last night. Turned out pretty well and we were on the air talking! Bill ended up with my old FT-7800 in a complex Ponzi scheme that involved an illicit exchange of rocker protecting steel and labor for Japanese electronics.

We were going through how to operate the radio and I was just confusing Bill more than I was helping, so I wanted to start a thread for tips on how to work the radio. I could hear myself saying this stuff and it occurred to me just how overwhelming all of this must be to the new hams. I think the idea of simplex is easy enough to explain, but repeater operating and programming (mainly how do you know + or - offsets and tones!) is a pretty tough topic to explain.

So FT-7800 guys, how about some tips? I think the FT-7800 is probably one of the most popular radios installed by new 4WD hams, so I bet a lot of people will have questions. Here's a few basic button operations that are important. Read the manual and post up questions!

I won't insult you, the power button, push-to-talk, volume, squelch. That's all like your CBs.

Key 8 - V/M(MW)
Selects which mode the radio will be in: Memory Mode, VFO Mode, Home Mode
-VFO mode is where you can tune any frequency
-Memory mode is where you select a user preset memory location
-FYI, Home Frequencies on the radio default to 146.520, 250.000, 350.000, 446.000, 850.000 but are changeable.

-To toggle between the alpha-numeric tag and the actual frequency, press the "B" button on the microphone. This was the button I could not remember last night, Bill.

Key 6 - LOW(ACC)
Selects power level (LOW, MID2, MID1, HIGH)
-Power levels are 5W, 10W, 20W and 40(UHF)/50(VHF)W

-If you hold this button down for 1/2 second you will put the radio into weather (WX) mode
-All the NOAA weather stations are pre-programmed in, turn the big tuning dial to find the strongest one

Key 9 - SCAN(SEL)
Tap the button to start scanning
-If you are in Memory Mode, this will scan through the preset stations
-If you are in VFO Mode, this will scan through all frequencies on the band

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Old 03-12-2008, 08:41 AM
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These Guides are a great resource for any radio and should live in the glove box of any rig.
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Old 03-12-2008, 08:45 AM
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I also print out copies of the Yaesu manuals double sided and multiple sheets to a page and keep it in the truck. This usually ends up at about 8 or so pages. Go to http://www.yaesu.com, you can download the manual in PDF and print it that way.
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:07 AM
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I have the laminated nifty manual for both radios so I don't carry the big manual with me.
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:46 AM
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I just want to say a heartfelt THANK YOU to Dave for all the help he has been getting this rig up and running. What an Elmer!! We were up till 11:30, which was at least part of my confusion, but there is indeed a WHOLE lot of stuff to learn. He was turning this, punching that, stuff came up, other stuff changed...

I felt like what the puppies must feel like when I tell them stuff in English instead of body language and barking. Like, they would have a clue.

I think it would help if I had the programming software (not to mention, as a backup). Which means I need the cable. Geez, more stuff to buy . What software etc, and from where, should I get it?
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:55 AM
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I do think the software can be helpful, but you don't need to spend the money right now. The 7800 is not too bad to program by hand and so I was thinking this morning that we need to go through setting up a couple of memory locations and that will help understand all the options and why you need or want them.

For your trip this weekend, I think just understanding how to get to a simplex frequency and talk to your buddy (Dave, right?) is a good first step. Stick to easy to manage steps. Scan around, mess with the radio to see what you can figure out. But don't expect to understand everything yet. Next week or two when we have some time, we can walk through it slower. I was rushing last night to show you everything, but being late I really didn't explain anything very well. That's why I started this, trying to condense it down to a few important things.
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:57 AM
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I have been researching this.

You can buy a 7800 to USB cable on ebay

You can buy a 7800 to serial connector on ebay

You can buy the official 7800 to serial cable and ADMS software from Gigabyte for $39 or HRO for $49

The reviews on eham.net suggest that an aftermarket SW package is better

http://www.g4hfq.co.uk/ftb7800.htm

I am leaning towards the USB cable on ebay and the aftermarket SW package. I will probably decide and buy in the next few days
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Old 03-12-2008, 03:17 PM
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Bought this cable http://mailcenter2.comcast.net/wmc/v...=112803&sid=c0

Got the one for my VX-7r from them and had no issues with quick delivery. Most official kits come with a serial connector and then you can buy a USB converter. I would rather just get USB since external serial ports are becoming a thing of the past with USB.
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I've sorted my local repeaters by PL tone. See example below.

OUTPUT, INPUT, LOCATION PL TONE
146.77 146.17 BILL WILLIAMS 91.5
449.75 444.75 BILL WILLIAMS 91.5

146.88 146.27 PRESCOTT 100
147.38 147.99 PAYSON 100
442.0 447 Window Rock 100
442.85 447.85 Shaw Butte 100
444.5 449.5 Mt. Ord 100
448.47 443.47 Mt. Elden 100
448.47 443.47 Pinal Peak 100
448.5 443.5 P. Mountain 100
448.57 443.57 Towers Mtn 100
448.87 443.87 Mt. Elden 100
449.52 444.52 Shaw Butte 100

145.16 144.57 PAYSON 103.5
147.25 147.86 MT UNION 103.5
147.25 147.86 MT UNION 103.5
448.42 443.42 Pinal Peak 103.5

This allows me to manually enter repeaters fairly quickly since I don't have to change any settings once the Transmitter output, CTCCS mode and PL tone have been entered. Once that group is complete, set the next PL tone and cont. programming. Here's what seems to be working for me...

Select the VFO mode.

Select the transmitter power desired.

Set the CTCCS for "ENC" via the Tone/Rev button. Once set, the radio will stay in the "ENC" mode.

Press the "Band/Set" button for approx 1/2 second to get into the set mode. Dial to menu #44, press the Band/Set button again, select the PL Tone for the first group of freq's. Press Band/Set again to enter the PL Tone.

In the VFO mode enter the freq on the mike key pad.

Press the V\M(MW) key to enter the freq and modes into memory. Turn the dial to select a memory number, press the V\M(MW) key again to select that location.

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Old 03-15-2008, 09:09 PM
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So I bought the Software I listed above for the 7800. Was able to import the csv file from my VX-7r and there is a lot of stuff that is obvious about this radio I still don't understand.

Just look at the tabs for all the different stuff. Starting to learn about Personal Messaging System (PMS) now.

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