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Old 04-17-2008, 09:57 AM
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Interesting reading. You think terminology doesn't matter? Guess again.
http://www.gkma.ca/GKMA/SierraClubORVHandbook.pdf

We could play 'Where's Waldo?" with the statements that sound completely science-based - and are anything but.

This is what we are up against when we submit comments on EISs, MVUMs, etc.
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I read through this. These people are Nazis.
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Old 04-17-2008, 11:32 AM
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You are right, Matt, they are Nazis.

One thing that is very important in these matters is to get county commissioners, or supervisors to get on board and make sure they have a land use plan in place and they require the federal agencies to "COORDINATE" with them on any land use project that is coming up. This takes some dedication to following the commissioners on what they are taking action on. The control here belongs to the local governments provided they have the backbone to stand up for the citizens (their tax base) they represent.

Any EIS must be done in coordination with the county government, provided the cty govt has requested coordination. This is all according to federal statutues. This goes for all the federal agencies, the statutes state this and the federal government has defined coordination so there is no gray areas there. The greenies like to make sure that the ordinary person doesn't have a good grasp on this and they are pushing their agenda very hard. The regular people like us, need to get on board with understanding this principle and start getting their county representatives to use their control and power on these very issues.
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Their emphasis on delegating closure authority to the local ranger also works for us - IF we have a good relationship with the local districts and have proven to be responsible, and to be valuable support resources for the district.

And Rising Sun has done this, and will do more.
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Having the local authority (ranger) in charge is nice and it would work provided you had a good relationship but all of this comes back to local control and using federal statutes to the benefit of the tax base by the local government. If this ranger leaves and a new one arrives, no telling where his head will be so instead of having a local government control, you have to depend on creating new relationships every time the ranger changes. The local government control needs monitoring as well to make sure they are protecting the tax base in their area and standing firm on making the federal agencies following the statutes.
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