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Old 04-21-2008, 12:21 PM
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Always check the battery cables. One method is to turn on the headlights, then crank the starter. If there is no starter action, and the headlights go very dim, it is the battery cable(s) (even if they look OK from the outside). If the headlights stay bright, and no starter action, it most likely is the contacts.

They can and do fail suddenly, though usually they give gradual warning of impending doom.
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Old 04-21-2008, 12:29 PM
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Huh.

Mine was a snap. 4 foot extension on the front bolt, 6 inch for the rear, off it came. Took about an hour start to finish.
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Old 04-21-2008, 12:30 PM
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When things get hot their resistance increases, it could be contacts. Two things with the contacts, first they wear a groove that's worse on the (+) side (it arcs more when the solenoid kicks) and that means sometimes one contact is hit before the other, which hangs up the plunger and you don't get good contact. Second is corrosion. So when things are cold, there may be enough contact or low enough resistance to work that when hot just won't. It's perfectly possible that you just need contacts.

In my case, I put the thing in the oven and warmed it up (never let a significant other see that and trust me, wear gloves!) and tried it with the battery and jumper cables and could see the starter shaft struggling to spin (the rotor was jumpy). If it was loaded on the engine, pretty sure it wouldn't have turned the engine (even a gerbil filled one) over. But now that I think about that, baking the starter might have not been a good idea, easy to cook the insulation off the windings. Um, yeah.
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Old 04-21-2008, 12:38 PM
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Um, yeah. What he said.









That's pretty funny Dave.
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Dave, you crack me up! You are most definitely an engineer...
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What's the worst that can happen? Gotta try and experiment to see how things work. At least I know a little more now after trying to make starter casserole.
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Starter casserole is good.

I like a nice baked alaskan ring gear myself.

Wives don't seem to like it quite as much. You really can't pass the smell of gear oil off as "fishsticks." (trust me)

Tip: Don't use the wife's dishwasher for anything really gooey like knuckle bearings either.
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Matt,

If it is anything like the 80 series and impact gun (air) will be your friend

On mine there is such limited room that I couldn't get a socket to move at all and those bolts were on there good. Amazingly enough there was just enough room to get an impact gun on the front bolt...The air socket would bug the bolt FWIW. Putting it back on and trying to torque the bolts to 29 ft/lbs was a similar exercise in futility and the impact gun came out again.
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Starter casserole is good.

I like a nice baked alaskan ring gear myself.

Wives don't seem to like it quite as much. You really can't pass the smell of gear oil off as "fishsticks." (trust me)

Tip: Don't use the wife's dishwasher for anything really gooey like knuckle bearings either.
I used ours for transmission case. Post-dipped, however, so I was not in dire straights. I did get the stinkeye when I opened the dishwasher however.
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Pretty simple: the small wire on the starter, which is in plastic plug form, worked its way off just enough to not have any contact. I've started it about 10 times in succession after just pushing it back into place and am pretty confident nothing else is going on. 'Twould 'splain the suddenness of it not working too...


at least I didn't have to pull the starter!
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