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Old 05-12-2008, 11:53 AM
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Robbie had some good info on the Trail Leader Training day about winch cables. A lot of kinks get formed when spooling a cable onto your winch - sometimes they will come out if you put some tension on the winch cable then tap the cable with a hammer. I think he said broken wires here and there are okay, but if more than 1/4 or 1/3 of the diameter of the cable is cut/broken then it's definitely time to replace it.
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It's just me (and Rudeboy will likely agree in spades that it is just me... where is my OCD medication now? It was just here...) but I would not run a cable with more than a strand or two broken. If strands are breaking what is the condition of the remaining ones? Just too dangerous, potentially, even if you could get away with it. What are the consequences of a broken steel cable?



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Old 05-12-2008, 03:03 PM
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the guys near my cable while i was winching said they could hear it popping... no doubt those were more strands breaking...
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I would not run a cable with more than a strand or two broken.
There is certainly some margin, and it might be a lot, built in to the wire rope, but if you didn't need all those strands to achieve a rating then you'd better believe that the manufacturer would not put them there. I'd be suspect if there's more than one wire broken in one strand of the rope or if there's more than a couple in the whole rope. It depends on how many total and all that stuff.
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On my old winch I too had broken strands. I checked it carefully one day to make sure I could still use it. When I got to one of the sections that showed a broken strand I dug a little further, inside the cable I found several more strands that had broken. It was on a kink that was caused by me not winding the cable properly pulling out another person. Once I found that section with about 5 broken strands I looked for more, I found several more in kinked area that were hidden from plain sight.

my believe is this, where there is one broken strand there are more, if not now there will be. I am sure you could still pull out some people or yourself for that matter but if you are able to, $$$, replace it I would. For the money you spend on either a new steel or synthetic line it is well worth it.

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My two cents, replace it.
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I've got broken strands and kinks and should replace mine. I assume 125ft. of 5/16th rope for my xdi9000 would be appropriate ($205.00 on the rockstomper site)?
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I've got broken strands and kinks and should replace mine. I assume 125ft. of 5/16th rope for my xdi9000 would be appropriate ($205.00 on the rockstomper site)?

That should do the job, nice guys over there too. just got another hinge
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I've got broken strands and kinks and should replace mine. I assume 125ft. of 5/16th rope for my xdi9000 would be appropriate ($205.00 on the rockstomper site)?
Don't forget an extension and possibly even an extra 10' length of the rope "guard"

I've read UV is one of the bigger damagers to the syn rope and wished I had ordered the extra 10' length of guard at the same time I did the rope. Dang shipping was more than the guard IIRC . Anyway, when spooled onto the winch one 10' section only covers about 1/2 of the exposed rope. Two lengths and some careful reeling in pretty much insures the rope is entirely covered except for the section on the thimble

Not sure, maybe you can just order one longer section of it up front
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125' seems a bit long, but maybe its just me. I like the idea of 80' or 100', plus a 40 or 50' extension when needed. That way, you are more likely to spool out enough of your main winch line to get the max pulling power of the winch (for shorter pulls), and then you've got an extension or two if/when you need the extra long pull.
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I got an extra section of rope guard for mine also... and I stuck with the longer rope.

I have an XD9000i and i went with 125' of 5/16" rope FWIW..

quick question... how do I make sure the winch line dosen't damage itself as it reels in over the lug on the left side? my cable actually broke the lug off as it wrapped onto itself...
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