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Old 09-17-2008, 11:57 AM
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Default Bilsteins Here We Come

A deal at $22/pair:
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:04 PM
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Where did you get those, I could use a pair on the trailer.

thanks!
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:30 PM
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4 Wheel Parts.
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Old 09-17-2008, 01:14 PM
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Hope I"M not raining on your parade...

but
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http://www.aa-mfg.com/pdshop/shop/item.aspx?itemid=482



You still need the bolts. But I made some of these when someone pointed this option out. MUCH easier.
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Old 09-17-2008, 02:40 PM
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Good find. Beefy enough?
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Old 09-17-2008, 03:00 PM
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Why Bilsteins, anyway? how are they different from/better than OME L shocks?
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Old 09-17-2008, 03:38 PM
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I want to find the ideal damping properties I need for a "light" 80 that has 5" of lift, for the best possible ride, whether it's rock crawling in CO or driving "fast" in the AZ desert or on choppy, rutted washboard dirt roads anywhere.

Bilstein 7100's are the goal, so they can be revalved, and have better anti-fade properties with a remote reservoir-style system. If an OME shock is $90, why not have a rebuildable, revalvable shock for less than twice the price?

Even if I have to ditch the Slee 4" springs for lighter spring rates found in FOR or Downey with 2" spring spacers to get the height, I will do so.

I am even looking at F-O-A off road shocks. They have a 2.5" reservoir shock for under $200 each.

I am first going to experiment with some Bilstein 5125 10" socks with 255/70 valving to see if I can get away with lighter valving than some are running on 7100's (400/100), since my 80 is lighter than others. If that doesn't work, I'll probably go the 7100 route, try 360/80 valving and go from there. Again, if I don't like the characteristics of a heavy sprung/damped 80, I will go with a lighter spring rate and lighter damping.

I will be looking like a used shock warehouse very soon, and will be selling my 3 week old OME "L" shocks for a good deal.
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Old 09-17-2008, 03:41 PM
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$22/pair? Is that a typo?
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Old 09-17-2008, 03:49 PM
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price is for the adapter plates, not the shocks.


I had 5125's on a 40 and thought they did the job well. But after seeing a presentation on single wall vs. double wall shocks, I was fairly convinced the double walls were the way to go for an expedition rig. But no, I've never dented one (efforts involved taking them off doesn't count)
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Old 09-17-2008, 04:01 PM
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I'd go straight to the 7100's since part of your goal is high speed AZ driving. The pin style mount with large bushings on OME is not ideal for damping, because the bushings will allow movement independent of the shocks - in my experience, including pin style OME mounted shocks on a much lighter truck, any movement of the shock body itself at speed on rough roads both builds heat and is very bushing longevity unfriendly (guys in Oz have reported regular OME bushing failure on MUD). I had a loose eye adapter with my Bilsteins at one point, and that shock was much hotter than the more rigid mount just from highway use.

That's why for me, going to a rigid eye to eye mount (and properly installing it ) is the first upgrade.

The 7100's use a spherical end, whereas the 5100's use a poly bushing (still better than a pin style mount). The 7100 spherical end with eye adapter means a completely rigid shock mount. With the remote reservoir, this mount style is going to be ideal for fade resistance.

I'd go straight to 380/80 in the rear and consider 255/70 up front. My valving is 168/73 and I think it is nice up front on a stated spring rate of ~227, whereas that rate is pretty light for a stated rear rate of ~250. The rear of the 80 really needs more damping than the front even with a higher spring rate.

Also, have you looked into the Fox 2.0's? I hear good things about them even compared to the 7100's. What I like about the 7100's is the short body option, gives you all kinds of suspension tuning options in terms of up/down travel.
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