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Old 11-13-2008, 04:58 PM
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Default Fuel Injection Cleaner ? - Robbie?

So I must say I like Robbie (PowderPig)'s first stab in his new role as Tech Editor at the Trails (as soon as I figured out what the heck "followers" were )

But his message about fuel injection cleaner products left me a little confused, and wanting more knowledge.

He said something like there are two types of injector cleaner additives - chemical based and detergent based.

I realize he could not drop names, but I want product names for the two different kinds of cleaners!

My Civic is closing in on 200k miles and I don't think I have ever run any cleaner through it. I am thinking it might be time...

Now that I am fool injected with the Pig, I need to try both cleaners as the 3FE has some issues I am trying to resolve.

I have a friend who used to work for Bosch and swears by Techron. I could not find any at my NAPA, but they like BG 44k, so I threw a can of that in with half a tank (Pig tank = 20 gallons = $$$)

So Robbie (or others) - how can I tell which cleaner is chemical vs. detergent, and what brands do people like?

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Old 11-13-2008, 05:02 PM
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bg44k is great stuff. i heard a rumor that Toyota uses this stuff too.
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Old 11-13-2008, 05:03 PM
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Amsoil's P.I. is a detergent based cleaner as is Red Line's system cleaner. I can't find the Red Line at parts stores anynore.
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Old 11-13-2008, 05:23 PM
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So is 44k chemical and Amsoil & Red Line detergent?

Where to get the Amsoil or Red Line?

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Old 11-13-2008, 05:28 PM
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BG 44k has always done me right too. One can, one tank of gas. Of course, the one can is usually like $25.

There is some cheaper stuff you can get at Checker for $5/can: Lucas Fuel Injector Cleaner. You need 2 cans + 2 tanks of gas. This was recommended to me by Scott over at AA Performance Muffler on Broadway. He says it works great.
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Stevinson Toyota sells B&G products at our club discount.
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Old 11-13-2008, 08:15 PM
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Stevinson Toyota sells B&G products at our club discount.
I was about to post that until I read your reply. It's closer to $20 with our discount.

BG 44-K is solvent based. During before-meeting discussions with Robbie at OTB, he has also mentioned that he likes Redline, I would guess that might be the detergent-based brand he referred to in his column.

I've been using BG 44-K for decades and swear by the stuff. It's been recommended to me over the years by several pro mechanics who I trust. Forget STP and all the others you see at grocery stores etc. You get what you pay for.

If Robbie says Redline is good, I'd trust him and try it. I've just never seen where it's sold?
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Techron is a petrochemical based injection cleaner(I like it), while Redline is a detergent based one. I have used the lucas one in the past as well(detergent based I believe). I have not used BG 44k as I think it is way too much money. But hey what ever works. Toyota used to import a real great product, that would work almost before you drove a couple of mile. But the trick with it was to use it up in a week or it would work on the rubber hoses.
Pep boys used to carry it(redline). I know Carquest is carrying Redline oil (I believe), but do not know about the fuel injection cleaner.
Some believe that fuel injection cleaners are snake oil, but the right one will keep the injectors real happy for a long time.
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techron is the schnizit... you can get it at costco as well. Lucas's fuel treatment is different than their "injector cleaner"... I have a family loyalty to the lucas products, but 44k and techron work well.
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Where else besides costco can one get the Techron?

Also, without hijacking the thread, Robbie, the mention of motor oils in your writing got me confused. What are the popular viscosities of oil to use in the FZJ's for summer and winter? I know most of the FZJ's early in their soccer-mom lives probably ran 5w-30, as specified in the owner's manual. I know this has been beat to death on MUD, but I would like your answer please.
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