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Old 12-02-2008, 10:35 AM
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Yea - I've read the details of the link a few times - it's been very helpful. My new sill came with the curved ends (wings) already attached (its the "Complete Sill" from CCOT), and so I wondered if I could cut away the old sill and install the new one "behind" the rear quarter without cutting or removing those quarter panels?
Most of the time, if the sill is rotten, so are the quarters. Mine is a prime example.

Not hijack the thread, but I was talking to Kurt (Cruiser Outfitters) and he was telling me about how their club in Utah does a monthly "Tech Night". Anyone who is interested shows up to learn something from other skilled members. Pretty cool idea. Maybe Rising Sun could have an FJ40 rear sill replacement session using someones rig as an example. Another month could be installing a latte machine in your 80, etc.
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Old 12-02-2008, 10:38 AM
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What a great idea! I would definitely make time to attend these. I learned SO much from the wheel bearing packing party, and from Jeff and Ige (and others) when they help me out.

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Most of the time, if the sill is rotten, so are the quarters. Mine is a prime example.

Not hijack the thread, but I was talking to Kurt (Cruiser Outfitters) and he was telling me about how their club in Utah does a monthly "Tech Night". Anyone who is interested shows up to learn something from other skilled members. Pretty cool idea. Maybe Rising Sun could have an FJ40 rear sill replacement session using someones rig as an example. Another month could be installing a latte machine in your 80, etc.
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Old 12-02-2008, 10:58 AM
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What a great idea! I would definitely make time to attend these. I learned SO much from the wheel bearing packing party, and from Jeff and Ige (and others) when they help me out.

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Old 12-02-2008, 07:02 PM
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Yea - I've read the details of the link a few times - it's been very helpful. My new sill came with the curved ends (wings) already attached (its the "Complete Sill" from CCOT), and so I wondered if I could cut away the old sill and install the new one "behind" the rear quarter without cutting or removing those quarter panels?
Please elaborate? There are two parts to the sill: the outer skin (just between the doors), and the complete sill, which includes the wings. The latter requires cutting from the QPs, the former not so. You do not have to remove the old QPs to install the complete sill with wings, but since it is welded to the QPs you most certainly have to separate the two. You could probably drill out the welds to separate them, but I can not envision how to remove and replace the full sill without either cutting or replacing the QPs.
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Old 12-02-2008, 09:57 PM
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That's basically it - I figured the "wings" are welded to the back of the QP, but wondered how accessible they might be from behind to actually cut/grind them away from the QP without cutting clear through to the front. My panels are in pretty good shape - some bubbling in the paint but nearly as rotten as the center channel of the sill.

Keep in mind I'm doing mostly web work here - I haven't really crawled up behind there and taken a close look at what I'm dealing with. I'm finding lots of ways to procrastinate on the work needed for the 40. But since you and Ricardo were talking sills and QP's I thought I'd ask....
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Old 12-03-2008, 05:24 AM
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Not hijack the thread, but I was talking to Kurt (Cruiser Outfitters) and he was telling me about how their club in Utah does a monthly "Tech Night". Anyone who is interested shows up to learn something from other skilled members. Pretty cool idea.
x3 ! ! ! This would be totally cool. There is so much experience to be tapped, but reading about it here or on mud only takes one so far. Seeing it in person would make a huge difference.
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Old 12-03-2008, 04:51 PM
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That's basically it - I figured the "wings" are welded to the back of the QP, but wondered how accessible they might be from behind to actually cut/grind them away from the QP without cutting clear through to the front. My panels are in pretty good shape - some bubbling in the paint but nearly as rotten as the center channel of the sill.

Keep in mind I'm doing mostly web work here - I haven't really crawled up behind there and taken a close look at what I'm dealing with. I'm finding lots of ways to procrastinate on the work needed for the 40. But since you and Ricardo were talking sills and QP's I thought I'd ask....
The only way I can think of to remove and replace the sill without cutting through the existing quarter panels would be to remove all the body mounts and lift the body up about a foot or so at the rear. You'd still have to separate the old sill from the existing QPs. It seems to me that it would be FAR more practical to simply

1. Cut the (still good) quarter panels where they cover the sill.
2. Remove the sill with the QP cut-out section still attached.
3. Remove the QP cut-out sections from the old sill.
4. Install the new sill to the rear frame crossmember and weld to rear bed.
5. Weld the cut-out sections of QP back on.

Grind the welds down, fill with body filler, sand, paint.
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Old 12-03-2008, 04:56 PM
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x3 ! ! ! This would be totally cool. There is so much experience to be tapped, but reading about it here or on mud only takes one so far. Seeing it in person would make a huge difference.
I have hosted dozens of wrench sessions in my garage over the years, as have many other RS members. I've also traveled to many member's homes and helped them work on their rigs, as have many other RS members. This is one of the things we do - help each other out. And learn in the process. Every time I work on someone else's rig I learn something new!

I do plan on welding those quarter panels in this weekend, and if some folks want to show up and help/make wisecracks etc., I'll be happy to provide pizza and refreshments. I'll figure out which day and what time window in a bit, then post it up here, or maybe in the events section.

Does anyone know which Broncos are going to show up at Mile High on Sunday (the good ones who beat the Jets, or the ugly ones who got stomped by the faders)?
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Jeff,

I would love to come over and watch your Quarter panel replacement. I really need to do this to my rig but my welding skills are holding me back.
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Old 12-04-2008, 09:12 AM
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Thanks for the insight Jeff. That's what I was afraid of.....
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